Been fighting a cold/cough. Actually went to the doctor this week as we had just returned from Puerto Rico and my wife was thinking Zika. Just a cold. Did get some codeine-laced cough syrup though. Stuff puts Nyquil to shame.
As my 20 regular readers know (thank you for reading BTW), I write this diary largely to track my personal performance with Magic Formula Investing stocks along with a great deal of tracking of the official lists. So if you want to know if MFI works... you have come to the right place.
We turned the calendar to 2017. So I have reconstituted my MFI Index with the 50 stocks from the screen as of 12/31/16. They had a very strong first week, up 2.23%. My MFI investments will be tracked in two ways this year (sorry). I am committing new money to the tranches throughout the year (thinking a 50% increase as I wind down my discretionary approach). This makes determining my return during the year less straightforward. So the first approach will be just assuming I did not add new funds (so the way I have always done it). That will be my month by month tables. The second approach will measure my personal change. So in essence, if my MFI investment was currently (across all tranches $100,000) at start of year, I will say I had $150,000 at start of year (so 50K cash and 100K MFI). At the end of year, I'll have 150K MFI, plus gains/losses. As this approach has cash that will not be put to work for a chunk of the year, it will dampen the % gain/loss from the first approach. Ok, assuming no one really cared about that... onward.
Week 1
People say as goes the first week, so goes the year. Here is my first week:
Component | YTD |
Overall | +2.21% |
Select | +2.17% |
Formula | +1.16% |
Miscellaneous | +5.21% |
Dividend | +2.01% |
R3K | +1.70% |
MFI Index | +2.23% |
Note this table are my results, so everything is dampened with a cash component (dividend portfolio too, I am starting about 25% cash). Interestingly, Miscellaneous is the best, even though that is the one I am winding down. BAC-WTA, Gold miners, SPCB and OGXI all shot up first week. I did sell out of OGXI as I stated my goal is to wind this investing component down.
MFI Select
As my readers know, I have two MFI portfolios - "Select" and "Formula". They are both self-descriptive and both are constituted of 4 tranches of 5 stocks. $ amounts between the portfolios is roughly equal.
It was a great first week for Select. You see the 2.17% above, but remember that is my personal dampened number. Without the dampening of cash, it was 3.1%! You can see that in month by month table:
Date | Differential | MFI Value | R3K Value |
12/1/2012 | -2.20% | 99,765 | 101,965 |
1/1/2013 | -1.78% | 102,798 | 104,575 |
2/1/2013 | -2.26% | 102,594 | 104,856 |
3/1/2013 | -2.23% | 102,881 | 105,114 |
4/1/2013 | -0.43% | 106,804 | 107,234 |
5/1/2013 | 2.00% | 110,423 | 108,423 |
6/1/2013 | 4.75% | 115,831 | 111,085 |
7/1/2013 | 4.29% | 114,888 | 110,597 |
8/1/2013 | 6.91% | 124,799 | 117,889 |
9/1/2013 | 10.46% | 124,536 | 114,079 |
10/1/2013 | 19.67% | 138,655 | 118,990 |
11/1/2013 | 19.75% | 143,514 | 123,764 |
12/1/2013 | 23.70% | 150,105 | 126,405 |
1/1/2014 | 26.63% | 157,138 | 130,503 |
2/1/2014 | 24.70% | 150,619 | 125,918 |
3/1/2014 | 25.66% | 158,116 | 132,458 |
4/1/2014 | 30.38% | 162,991 | 132,616 |
5/1/2014 | 29.65% | 162,428 | 132,779 |
6/1/2014 | 31.44% | 167,001 | 135,559 |
7/1/2014 | 39.23% | 177,971 | 138,740 |
8/1/2014 | 31.13% | 167,054 | 135,922 |
9/1/2014 | 35.90% | 177,792 | 141,892 |
10/1/2014 | 29.38% | 168,321 | 138,944 |
11/1/2014 | 26.14% | 168,810 | 142,666 |
12/1/2014 | 30.22% | 176,420 | 146,198 |
1/1/2015 | 28.17% | 174,306 | 146,140 |
2/1/2015 | 20.63% | 162,833 | 142,201 |
3/1/2015 | 25.15% | 175,476 | 150,324 |
4/1/2015 | 29.95% | 178,565 | 148,612 |
5/1/2015 | 37.31% | 186,655 | 149,348 |
6/1/2015 | 51.53% | 202,897 | 151,371 |
7/1/2015 | 62.69% | 211,437 | 148,743 |
8/1/2015 | 40.75% | 192,117 | 151,369 |
9/1/2015 | 36.41% | 178,603 | 142,195 |
10/1/2015 | 43.12% | 181,175 | 138,052 |
11/1/2015 | 69.02% | 217,959 | 148,936 |
12/1/2015 | 73.49% | 223,435 | 149,946 |
1/1/2016 | 63.33% | 209,514 | 146,186 |
2/1/2016 | 49.49% | 187,428 | 137,934 |
3/1/2016 | 56.48% | 194,415 | 137,934 |
4/1/2016 | 47.34% | 195,770 | 148,430 |
5/1/2016 | 46.38% | 194,301 | 147,923 |
6/1/2016 | 51.44% | 201,999 | 150,558 |
7/1/2016 | 50.41% | 201,092 | 150,680 |
8/1/2016 | 52.72% | 207,223 | 154,501 |
9/1/2016 | 67.04% | 222,481 | 155,446 |
10/1/2016 | 42.98% | 198,563 | 155,582 |
11/1/2016 | 41.86% | 195,726 | 153,863 |
12/1/2016 | 45.92% | 202,775 | 156,859 |
1/1/2017 | 50.56% | 209,503 | 158,941 |
Current | 51.04% | 215,967 | 164,927 |
I did find a bit of a mistake in R3K, that is why it jumped more than 1.7% (my spreadsheets get complex).
2/1/2016 | Start | Current | Dividend | Pct Gain | R3K Gain |
VEC | $19.64 | $23.62 | $0.00 | 20.3% | 21.3% |
QCOM | $45.18 | $65.53 | $2.07 | 49.6% | 21.3% |
PERI | $2.45 | $1.63 | $0.00 | -33.5% | 21.3% |
DEPO | $15.34 | $19.17 | $0.00 | 25.0% | 21.3% |
TDC | $24.02 | $28.75 | $0.00 | 19.7% | 21.3% |
Totals | 16.2% | 21.3% | |||
5/6/2016 | Start | Current | Dividend | Pct Gain | R3K Gain |
BRCD | $7.97 | $12.50 | $0.17 | 58.9% | 13.8% |
CBI | $37.82 | $33.16 | $0.00 | -12.3% | 13.8% |
HSII | $18.51 | $23.25 | $0.26 | 27.0% | 13.8% |
RHI | $38.51 | $48.30 | $0.66 | 27.1% | 13.8% |
UTHR | $107.99 | $146.96 | $0.00 | 36.1% | 13.8% |
Totals | 27.4% | 13.8% | |||
8/15/2016 | Start | Current | Dividend | Pct Gain | R3K Gain |
CSCO | $31.20 | $30.23 | $0.26 | -2.3% | 5.6% |
GNC | $19.79 | $11.04 | $0.38 | -42.3% | 5.6% |
VLO | $54.73 | $66.66 | $0.60 | 22.9% | 5.6% |
MSGN | $16.68 | $22.95 | $0.00 | 37.6% | 5.6% |
GILD | $79.33 | $75.49 | $0.94 | -3.7% | 5.6% |
Totals | 2.5% | 5.6% | |||
11/15/2016 | Start | Current | Dividend | Pct Gain | R3K Gain |
MPAA | $26.55 | $27.91 | $0.00 | 5.1% | 5.5% |
ATHM | $22.61 | $27.41 | $0.00 | 21.2% | 5.5% |
AMGN | $145.14 | $156.78 | $0.00 | 8.0% | 5.5% |
RHI | $43.23 | $48.30 | $0.22 | 12.2% | 5.5% |
CA | $31.11 | $33.19 | $0.00 | 6.7% | 5.5% |
Totals | 10.7% | 5.5% | |||
Category/Tranche | August | November | February | May | Total |
Initial Investment | 25,000 | 25,000 | 25,000 | 25,000 | 100,000 |
Current Tranche | 2.5% | 10.7% | 16.2% | 27.4% | 12.8% |
Previous Tranche | 2.8% | 8.0% | -14.3% | -25.2% | 6.5% |
Tranche -2 | 11.2% | 69.4% | 8.5% | 18.3% | 26.8% |
Tranche -3 | 41.4% | 14.2% | 78.3% | 33.0% | 41.7% |
Tranche -4 | 14.1% | 43.7% | 0.0% | 0.0% | 14.5% |
MFI Overall Gain | 89.0% | 232.5% | 92.6% | 49.8% | 116.0% |
Current Balance | 47,241 | 83,137 | 48,145 | 37,444 | 215,967 |
R3K Current Tranche | 5.6% | 5.5% | 21.3% | 13.8% | 11.5% |
R3K Overall Gain | 76.5% | 79.7% | 61.6% | 51.3% | 64.9% |
R3K Balance | 41,779 | 44,934 | 40,402 | 37,813 | 164,927 |
Annualized IRR | 15.6% | 33.6% | 18.1% | 11.6% | 19.7% |
You can see my current tranches are up 12.8% versus 11.5% for R3K. That is underperforming MFI in total (I think roughly a 6 point lead). Looking at my individual picks, you'll see PERI and GNC have hurt me. BTW, it is time to start thinking about my new February tranche. I did peruse the stock list and with recent run-up, I am not finding many names that seem super attractive.
Here are how the names did for the week:
Stock | Last Week | Current | Dividend | Change |
RHI | 48.78 | 48.30 | - | -1.0% |
ATHM | 25.28 | 27.41 | - | 8.4% |
CA | 31.77 | 33.19 | - | 4.5% |
AMGN | 146.21 | 156.78 | - | 7.2% |
MPAA | 26.92 | 27.91 | - | 3.7% |
QCOM | 65.20 | 65.53 | - | 0.5% |
MSGN | 21.50 | 22.95 | - | 6.7% |
VLO | 68.32 | 66.66 | - | -2.4% |
BRCD | 12.49 | 12.50 | - | 0.1% |
DEPO | 18.02 | 19.17 | - | 6.4% |
CSCO | 30.22 | 30.23 | - | 0.0% |
VEC | 23.85 | 23.62 | - | -1.0% |
TDC | 27.17 | 28.75 | - | 5.8% |
GILD | 71.61 | 75.49 | - | 5.4% |
CBI | 31.75 | 33.16 | 4.4% | |
GNC | 11.04 | 11.04 | 0.0% | |
PERI | 1.42 | 1.63 | 14.8% | |
Average | 3.7% |
So PERI popped as did AMGN. Note this is a straight average, so the 3.7% does not consider my holdings are larger in some stocks than others.
MFI Formula
My not-so-secret formula is to only pick larger cap stocks that pay a dividend from the list. This has worked great in back testing. Since I started with real money in September 2014, it has out-performed the benchmark, but it has been a struggle.
Date | Differential | Value | R3K Value |
10/1/2014 | 0.00% | 100,000 | 100,000 |
11/1/2014 | 1.63% | 102,288 | 100,658 |
12/1/2014 | 0.30% | 101,375 | 101,075 |
1/1/2015 | -0.33% | 100,664 | 100,995 |
2/1/2015 | 1.67% | 101,281 | 99,611 |
3/1/2015 | 3.62% | 106,073 | 102,454 |
4/1/2015 | 5.09% | 106,781 | 101,695 |
5/1/2015 | 5.78% | 107,859 | 102,077 |
6/1/2015 | 5.08% | 108,213 | 103,134 |
7/1/2015 | 4.82% | 106,423 | 101,604 |
8/1/2015 | 3.71% | 107,112 | 103,404 |
9/1/2015 | 4.38% | 101,523 | 97,139 |
10/1/2015 | 6.39% | 100,703 | 94,312 |
11/1/2015 | 2.93% | 104,835 | 101,907 |
12/1/2015 | -3.48% | 99,443 | 102,926 |
1/1/2016 | -3.36% | 96,830 | 100,012 |
2/1/2016 | -0.72% | 93,797 | 94,367 |
3/1/2016 | 4.07% | 98,588 | 94,367 |
4/1/2016 | 0.34% | 102,371 | 101,548 |
5/1/2016 | -1.91% | 99,774 | 101,200 |
6/1/2016 | -0.42% | 103,145 | 103,568 |
7/1/2016 | -0.19% | 103,022 | 103,216 |
8/1/2016 | 2.56% | 109,419 | 106,857 |
9/1/2016 | -0.34% | 106,704 | 107,048 |
10/1/2016 | -0.85% | 106,377 | 107,230 |
11/1/2016 | 0.42% | 105,421 | 105,003 |
12/1/2016 | 1.62% | 110,705 | 109,088 |
1/1/2017 | 1.57% | 113,406 | 111,832 |
Current | 1.22% | 114,935 | 113,720 |
So up by a mere 1.2%, but I suspect some hedge fund managers would be happy with that of late.
Here are tranches:
4/1/16 Stocks | Start | Current | Dividend | Pct Gain | R3K Gain |
CALM | $51.27 | $43.05 | $0.44 | -15.2% | 13.7% |
HPQ | $12.10 | $15.00 | $0.38 | 27.0% | 13.7% |
TIME | $15.24 | $18.60 | $0.57 | 25.8% | 13.7% |
ILG | $13.85 | $17.86 | $0.36 | 31.5% | 13.7% |
TSRA | $30.79 | $44.95 | $0.60 | 48.0% | 13.7% |
Totals | 23.4% | 13.7% | |||
7/1/2016 | Start | Current | Dividend | Pct Gain | R3K Gain |
ILG | $16.76 | $17.86 | $0.24 | 8.0% | 9.3% |
VIAB | $44.00 | $37.79 | $0.40 | -13.2% | 9.3% |
CPLA | $53.22 | $86.00 | $0.80 | 63.1% | 9.3% |
HRB | $23.62 | $24.00 | $0.44 | 3.5% | 9.3% |
PBI | $17.69 | $16.18 | $0.38 | -6.4% | 9.3% |
Totals | 11.0% | 9.3% | |||
10/3/2016 | Start | Current | Dividend | Pct Gain | R3K Gain |
CPLA | $58.15 | $86.00 | $0.41 | 48.6% | 6.4% |
LDOS | $43.01 | $50.66 | $0.00 | 17.8% | 6.4% |
GME | $27.70 | $24.52 | $0.37 | -10.1% | 6.4% |
PBI | $18.15 | $16.18 | $0.19 | -9.8% | 6.4% |
CSCO | $31.72 | $30.23 | $0.52 | -3.1% | 6.4% |
Totals | 8.7% | 6.4% | |||
12/30/2016 | Start | Current | Dividend | Pct Gain | R3K Gain |
GILD | $71.69 | $75.49 | $0.00 | 5.3% | 1.6% |
HPQ | $15.00 | $15.00 | $0.00 | 0.0% | 1.6% |
TGNA | $21.33 | $21.50 | $0.00 | 0.8% | 1.6% |
CA | $31.99 | $33.19 | $0.00 | 3.8% | 1.6% |
SYNT | $19.79 | $20.39 | $0.00 | 3.0% | 1.6% |
Totals | 2.6% | 1.6% |
So while it has "struggled" all four open tranches are leading. They lead by 5 points, which is pretty consistent with MFI in general.
Category/Tranche | October | January | April | July | Total |
Initial Investment | 249,820 | 249,939 | 250,180 | 249,728 | 999,667 |
Current Tranche | 8.7% | 2.6% | 23.4% | 11.0% | 12.9% |
Previous Tranche | 5.5% | 9.3% | -0.2% | -12.5% | -1.0% |
Tranche -2 | 0.5% | 11.0% | - | - | 2.9% |
MFI Overall Gain | 15.2% | 24.4% | 23.1% | -2.9% | 15.0% |
Current Balance | 287,742 | 310,981 | 308,017 | 242,606 | 1,149,346 |
R3K Current Tranche | 6.4% | 1.6% | 13.7% | 9.3% | 7.7% |
R3K Overall Gain | 20.1% | 13.5% | 12.4% | 9.0% | 13.8% |
R3K Balance | 300,049 | 283,799 | 281,227 | 272,124 | 1,137,200 |
Annualized IRR | 6.4% | 11.4% | 12.4% | -1.9% | 7.1% |
Note the January tranche was my first "boost" of the 50% investment in real money. You don't see it here as I assume I stated with $1,000,000 and then no additional investments. But I keep my own (secret) tables with my funds. Good to see my newest one off to decent start. Woo-hoo!
Here are how the stocks did week 1:
Stock | Last Week | Current | Dividend | Change |
CPLA | 87.80 | 86.00 | - | -2.1% |
HPQ | 14.84 | 15.00 | - | 1.1% |
ILG | 18.17 | 17.86 | - | -1.7% |
PBI | 15.19 | 16.18 | - | 6.5% |
GILD | 71.61 | 75.49 | - | 5.4% |
CA | 31.77 | 33.19 | - | 4.5% |
SYNT | 19.79 | 20.39 | - | 3.0% |
TGNA | 21.39 | 21.50 | - | 0.5% |
TSRA | 44.20 | 44.95 | - | 1.7% |
LDOS | 51.14 | 50.66 | - | -0.9% |
TIME | 17.85 | 18.60 | - | 4.2% |
CSCO | 30.22 | 30.23 | 0.26 | 0.9% |
GME | 25.26 | 24.52 | - | -2.9% |
HRB | 22.99 | 24.00 | - | 4.4% |
CALM | 44.18 | 43.05 | -2.5% | |
VIAB | 35.10 | 37.79 | 7.7% | |
Average | 1.9% |
Dividend Portfolio
While not MFI, I do briefly mention my dividend portfolio. It is really third leg of my investing stool (it also has about same funds as each MFI portfolio). Here I am building out income stream for retirement (I turn 58 this year). So many of the names here I have held for many years and I often just reinvest dividends. I have stocks and closed end funds. I am going to try and go a bit more bondish during the next couple of years (hopefully after rates move up a bit). I do have some (JQC and DHF for instance). So this portfolio is not meant to be sexy.
Dividend Stocks | Start | Current | Dividends | Overall Pct Gain | Weekly Pct Gain |
CSQ | 9.11 | 10.68 | 2.29 | 42.4% | 4.0% |
AOD | 7.64 | 7.84 | 1.69 | 24.8% | 3.4% |
SBRA | 22.46 | 25.39 | 0.41 | 14.9% | 4.0% |
PSXP | 46.95 | 51.37 | 0.53 | 10.5% | 5.6% |
TGONF | 10.24 | 12.20 | 1.85 | 37.3% | 0.5% |
JQC | 7.84 | 8.77 | 0.64 | 20.0% | -0.9% |
PSX | 80.00 | 85.40 | 2.88 | 10.4% | -1.2% |
DSL | 18.43 | 19.09 | 1.02 | 9.1% | 0.5% |
GLDI | 10.65 | 9.15 | 0.73 | -7.3% | 2.3% |
PEO | 20.49 | 20.54 | - | 0.3% | 1.8% |
O | 24.18 | 59.84 | 19.49 | 228.1% | 4.1% |
DHF | 3.19 | 3.37 | 0.04 | 6.6% | 0.3% |
OIBAX | 5.07 | 5.63 | 2.32 | 56.7% | 0.4% |
Totals | 23.0% |
The important part is dividends. Here is my dividend growth by year (including 2017 projection). Note the Y axis are not real numbers, but trajectory is.
Now this is all dividends, including dividends from MFI portfolios. The 2017 projection is based on current holdings, so it should grow as I move cash into securities throughout 2017. Long story short, this compound growth should continue upwards as I commit new money AND reinvest dividends. I hear people compare investing to a casino. But there is nothing like compound growth to make it real. Check out my CSQ reinvested dividends over time (uses a factor to mask):
Date Purchased | Cost | Value | Dividends | Gain |
08/23/11 | 25,110 | 32,040 | 14,714 | 21,644 |
09/15/11 | 158 | 202 | 92 | 136 |
09/22/11 | 5,003 | 6,664 | 3,028 | 4,689 |
09/26/11 | 5,000 | 6,675 | 3,033 | 4,708 |
10/04/11 | 5,003 | 7,188 | 3,012 | 5,197 |
10/14/11 | 259 | 335 | 151 | 227 |
11/15/11 | 261 | 322 | 143 | 204 |
12/15/11 | 263 | 339 | 148 | 224 |
01/03/12 | 264 | 333 | 143 | 212 |
02/15/12 | 355 | 399 | 171 | 215 |
03/14/12 | 357 | 388 | 163 | 194 |
04/16/12 | 360 | 403 | 167 | 210 |
05/14/12 | 362 | 401 | 164 | 203 |
06/14/12 | 365 | 423 | 170 | 228 |
07/13/12 | 368 | 414 | 164 | 210 |
08/15/12 | 370 | 393 | 153 | 175 |
09/13/12 | 373 | 394 | 151 | 172 |
10/15/12 | 376 | 395 | 149 | 168 |
11/15/12 | 378 | 431 | 159 | 212 |
01/03/13 | 381 | 407 | 145 | 171 |
02/07/13 | 384 | 392 | 137 | 145 |
03/14/13 | 386 | 394 | 135 | 144 |
04/08/13 | 389 | 395 | 133 | 139 |
05/14/13 | 391 | 385 | 127 | 120 |
06/13/13 | 394 | 413 | 133 | 152 |
07/15/13 | 397 | 411 | 130 | 144 |
08/13/13 | 399 | 419 | 130 | 150 |
09/13/13 | 402 | 429 | 130 | 157 |
10/08/13 | 405 | 430 | 128 | 153 |
10/08/13 | 7,502 | 8,127 | 2,414 | 3,039 |
11/14/13 | 461 | 474 | 138 | 150 |
12/13/13 | 464 | 474 | 135 | 145 |
01/03/14 | 467 | 459 | 127 | 119 |
02/14/14 | 470 | 460 | 125 | 115 |
03/14/14 | 473 | 457 | 102 | 86 |
04/14/14 | 561 | 550 | 141 | 130 |
05/13/14 | 566 | 528 | 131 | 94 |
06/16/14 | 570 | 516 | 124 | 70 |
07/15/14 | 574 | 511 | 119 | 57 |
08/15/14 | 578 | 529 | 119 | 71 |
09/15/14 | 582 | 523 | 114 | 55 |
10/15/14 | 586 | 551 | 116 | 81 |
10/16/14 | 16,692 | 17,248 | 3,619 | 4,175 |
11/14/14 | 725 | 651 | 132 | 57 |
12/15/14 | 728 | 677 | 132 | 80 |
01/06/15 | 734 | 685 | 128 | 80 |
02/13/15 | 739 | 693 | 124 | 78 |
03/16/15 | 744 | 706 | 121 | 82 |
04/15/15 | 750 | 708 | 116 | 74 |
05/15/15 | 755 | 708 | 110 | 62 |
06/15/15 | 761 | 715 | 106 | 60 |
07/15/15 | 766 | 742 | 104 | 80 |
08/15/15 | 772 | 795 | 105 | 128 |
08/25/15 | 19,380 | 21,360 | 2,822 | 4,802 |
09/15/15 | 943 | 1,044 | 130 | 230 |
09/28/15 | 18,640 | 21,360 | 2,656 | 5,376 |
10/15/15 | 1,116 | 1,202 | 140 | 227 |
11/16/15 | 1,125 | 1,194 | 130 | 199 |
12/15/15 | 1,135 | 1,260 | 127 | 253 |
01/07/16 | 1,144 | 1,266 | 118 | 240 |
01/15/16 | 17,325 | 21,360 | 1,992 | 6,027 |
01/20/16 | 23,859 | 32,040 | 2,988 | 11,169 |
02/16/16 | 1,567 | 2,077 | 178 | 688 |
03/15/16 | 1,583 | 1,837 | 143 | 397 |
04/15/16 | 1,597 | 1,782 | 125 | 310 |
05/15/16 | 1,611 | 1,768 | 110 | 267 |
06/15/16 | 1,624 | 1,755 | 95 | 226 |
07/15/16 | 1,638 | 1,709 | 80 | 151 |
08/15/16 | 1,651 | 1,675 | 65 | 89 |
09/15/16 | 1,664 | 1,742 | 54 | 132 |
10/15/16 | 1,677 | 1,769 | 41 | 133 |
11/15/16 | 1,691 | 1,829 | 28 | 167 |
12/15/16 | 1,705 | 1,767 | 14 | 75 |
01/07/17 | 1,719 | 1,766 | - | 47 |
You can see the large purchases (such as 1/15/16 with the 17,325 add and those have generally been at opportune times), but you can also see the steady growth of reinvested dividends and even more fun, the dividends on the reinvested dividends. Again, this is not sexy stuff. But it is building. Even if I bought no more CSQ, if we assume they hold dividend steady, my monthly stream at age 60 will grow from $1,719 today to $2,245. If you buy a stock and they are increasing dividend every year, it can bee even better.
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